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cooproberts wrote:
Is there a way to filter out sounds that cannot be used for commercial purposes? There really should be a way, I don't ever want non-commercial use sounds in my results. I want to see BOTH Creative Commons and attributions but NOT noncommercial. This seems like an essential filter to have on the UI.

But it is on the to-do-list for improvements

https://github.com/MTG/freesound/issues/1569

I haven't been active in uploading recently, but I just uploaded a sound today using the new UI. As I was going through that process, I noticed that the CC license descriptions for Attribution and Noncommercial are switched.

I looked for other mention of this but didn't see any.

Wasn't sure if a reply in this thread, a new thread, or a new Github issue was the best way to report this.

As always, thanks for all of the great work!

Seelengold wrote:
The central point of FS are the samples. These are presented compactly, clearly and concisely in the previous page with all the associated information. You know where they start, you know where they end. Always to be grasped with a glance, clearly delimited from each other, always to be distinguished clearly - also from the environment. FS fully achieves the set task of conveying the samples quickly and clearly.

Have you tried the spectrograms option in the new UI? This might help in making the sound players more delimited and maybe works better for you. Also, the sound display in grid view needs to be updated so more information is visible. I'll see what I can do without making it take a lot of vertical space.

cooproberts wrote:
Is there a way to filter out sounds that cannot be used for commercial purposes? There really should be a way, I don't ever want non-commercial use sounds in my results. I want to see BOTH Creative Commons and attributions but NOT noncommercial. This seems like an essential filter to have on the UI.

That is a great suggestion! Also thanks @Headphaze for pointing to the Github issue! I'll promote this issue so I work on it before the new UI release. I guess it could be implemented as a 5th option in the licenses faced like "Exclude noncommercial". Or maybe a new checkbox in advanced search options to "Exclude noncommercial sounds". I'l think about it.

jppi_Stu wrote:
I haven't been active in uploading recently, but I just uploaded a sound today using the new UI. As I was going through that process, I noticed that the CC license descriptions for Attribution and Noncommercial are switched.

Thanks for noting this, I just fixed it!

Hi techteam,

I mis the "Delete this sound" in "edit sound information".

regards

klankbeeld wrote:
I mis the "Delete this sound" in "edit sound information".

Good point! The idea was to add the button in the "Manage sounds page", but there are a couple of complications related to allowing multiple sounds to be deleted at once and I did not add it yet. I might add the button but only enable it when only one sound is selected in the manage sounds page. In the future it should be possible to delete multiple sounds at once. Thanks for reporting!

Hello,

I am new to Freesound and I started exploring both UIs at the same time. I think the new one is much nicer and convenient!

Cheers!

Hello!
I would like the sounds organized in my profile like in the feed.
In my profile it doesn't show how many downloads or comments.

okay, forget my question (below).... just found it!!!!!

"Unfortunately, it is still not possible to see a total number of all downloads of my sounds. I have over 600 sounds and have to look through all individually for the calculation of the total downloads. since I am a statistics fan, I would like to have more options for evaluation. Thank you for your great work."

Hello,

frederic.font wrote: "Have you tried the spectrograms option in the new UI?"

Yes, I have now done so. This setting actually improves the overall look a bit, it's not so intrusive anymore. Can't this setting option be placed right on the home page if possible? It is impractical to have to log in for every little thing - i.e. a quick look at your own download numbers, a quick look at new sounds, a quick look at Freesound - only then to reach the better, more pleasant page display.

Horizontal arrangement of samples:
In the previous standard vertical arrangement of samples, you could also see the number of their downloads as well as comments. I found and still find this extremely practical for a first orientation. Now this first look information is gone. I assume that you can still find them somewhere, but only after further, time-consuming, cumbersome clicking. And at least I don't want to have to go to the basement of the page for a quick, informative overview. Conclusion: Very impractical.

Vertical arrangement of the samples:
The current default arrangement of samples is horizontal and impractical for a concise overview. Every now and then I somehow manage to call up the samples in the previous vertical arrangement. It may be due to my general sluggishness, but so far I haven't really figured out how to get beyond the somehow random search to a vertical representation that I consciously aim for.

This vertical representation is basically fine in itself, but the optical demarcation to the next following sample is not successful due to the sample incompactness, which is tattered at its lower boundary. The samples now practically have three areas:

Area 1 = the sample itself with envelope, title and description.
Area 2 = the tags
Area 3 = author and date on the left, download, comments, license on the right.

The 3rd area seems to be randomly pasted down there, tangles up the overall picture of the sample display and causes a lot of confusion, respectively it is not easy to determine spontaneously if this area actually still belongs to the upper, already to the lower, to which one actually?

Limit the sample to the areas 1 and 2. The information from the 3rd area should be listed in area 2. Author and date to the left of the tags, download, comments, license to the right of the tags. The space on the left and on the right of the tags should be sufficient in principle, if one omits the S-sign if necessary and indicates author as well as date in two lines. Maybe the height of the tag boxes should be changed a little bit, so that there is a clear horizontal alignment towards the bottom and thus a demarcation to the next sample.

The now compact presentation of the individual sample results in a clear overall presentation. Restlessness, tangling, unconscious discomfort when viewing.... all gone!

So, and now then - for I hereby end my comments on the new UI - a final observation:

There are few sites on the net with convincing originality. FS had this independence. A face, an identity, unmistakable. Of course, the years go by, things get dusty and you have to make adjustments every now and then. But just evolutionary and no optical paradigm shift! The current optics? Inflationary represented in the net... here and there and everywhere. Independence? Unmistakable? Nothing there, "modern" one-size-fits-all...

FS without face, without identity, uniform mush... Adaptation and assimilation in the spirit of the times...

Although I will continue to stay here, but that my visits will be significantly less, I'm pretty sure. I regret that a home is gone; because one does not have so many of them.

Kind regards

Seelengold

Seelengold is right on the money. Every time I look at the new UI, my desire to use this site decreases. A change nobody asked for is soon to be forced on us. Every major company and website goes through this sort of process and the result is always an increase in commercialization/money-seeking behavior and a decline in quality. You can already see it with the Donate link on every page of the new UI and the blurb on the front page. I suspect that ads/trackers and premium/paid benefits are not far behind...

Hi - I hadn't logged in for a while, and tried the new UI. Unfortunately the page for accepting the new privacy policy didn't work and I was completely stuck. It's not actually possible to check the checkbox to accept the new privacy policy in the new UI. I had to open a private tab and log in to get it to work.

keep track of who downloads what?

For your consideration;
If you are a member of a community like we all are, it is not surprising if that community keeps each other sharp. Openness is important for this.

In the past, the freesound community has regularly found abuse and theft of sounds.

Now that the new UI does not (yet) show downloads of our own sounds and those of others, researching theft will no longer be possible from now on.
I regret that.

as an example the following forum link;
https://freesound.org/forum/legal-help-and-attribution-questions/33381/

ps Fortunately, abuse is rare here.

Hi techteam,

+1 for possibility to delete sounds.

I miss the feature when you play a sound, and then switch to play another sound, the first one is still continue playing. I would like to see that only one sound is plaing at a time, or be it at least configurable option from a preferences.

At a first glance new design felt wide and kind of empty - like a feeling of quite of (white) empty unused space, which I intuitively looking to shrink, to make it more compact, with more info, maybe.
Dunno might be just a matter of time to get used to a new design.

thanks!

Can not delete empty pack in new UI?

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the bug reporting, I'll fix them all (including the pack deletion). Now answering to some specific comments:

leaving.february wrote:
I miss the feature when you play a sound, and then switch to play another sound, the first one is still continue playing. I would like to see that only one sound is plaing at a time, or be it at least configurable option from a preferences.

This is actually available in the new UI. You'll find an option to disable multiple sounds being played at the same time in your account settings. Alternatively, you can alt+click on a play button and it will stop all other sounds currently being played before playing the clicked one.

leaving.february wrote:
At a first glance new design felt wide and kind of empty - like a feeling of quite of (white) empty unused space, which I intuitively looking to shrink, to make it more compact, with more info, maybe.

In response to users' feedback I've been making it less empty (reducing paddings and margins) and also adding more info, specially to the small sound players. I still have more things to do in this direction. Hopefully a little bit of these ongoing changes and a little bit of "getting used to it" will yield a satisfactory result

klankeeld wrote:
Now that the new UI does not (yet) show downloads of our own sounds and those of others, researching theft will no longer be possible from now on.
I regret that.

It will show it very shortly, it is on the todo list for thing to be added soon.

Seelengold wrote:
Can't this setting option be placed right on the home page if possible? [about compact mode for search results]

Yes I plan to add the option as a button in the search page itself and make the browser remember using a cookie.

Seelengold wrote:
In the previous standard vertical arrangement of samples, you could also see the number of their downloads as well as comments.

I guess you refer to the "small" sound players that can be displayed in a grid. I now added more information to them (average rating, license, pack, geotag). I tried to add num downloads and num comments as well, but did not find a good place to do it as they take significant space. I might give it another try but it is not easy.

Seelengold wrote:
It may be due to my general sluggishness, but so far I haven't really figured out how to get beyond the somehow random search to a vertical representation that I consciously aim for.

I'm not sure I understand that. I understand what you call "horizontal" arrangement of samples is what I call "grid". And the "vertical" arrangement is the default one for search results right? Basically how it works is that the "grid" view is used everywhere except for the search results, which use the "vertical" arrangement that contains more information. If you enable the "displays search results in grid" option in your account settings, then the grid view is also used in search results. I'll add a button to toggle grid mode in the search page, but that is how it works.

Seelengold wrote:
Limit the sample to the areas 1 and 2. The information from the 3rd area should be listed in area 2.

I'll try that, although that'll mean having more empty space in the display and making each search result take more height. Also for sounds with packs and/or geotags in which the pack name and location name are displayed, we might lose relevant information.

strangehorizon wrote:
Seelengold is right on the money. Every time I look at the new UI, my desire to use this site decreases. A change nobody asked for is soon to be forced on us. Every major company and website goes through this sort of process and the result is always an increase in commercialization/money-seeking behavior and a decline in quality. You can already see it with the Donate link on every page of the new UI and the blurb on the front page. I suspect that ads/trackers and premium/paid benefits are not far behind...

I understand your criticism, but I fundamentally disagree. We've also received very good and encouraging feeback for the new UI, and some users were indeed waiting for a UI update. Our only goal for making a new UI is to prepare Freesound for the future so we can continue supporting and improving it (increasing its quality). Freesound is a project that happens inside a public university. We have almost no direct funds for it other than that of user donations. We'll make the donate button more visible because increasing user donations means increrasing the efforts we are able to spend on Freesound. In terms of development efforts, the so called "Freesound team" is veeeeery small, sometimes only 2 of us and never with a full time dedication because we have to do many other things in the university. PhD students also contribute but mostly on the research side of things. We are actually very transparent about Freesound's sustainability, you can check our our blog posts about that (2022's is still pending). In fact, we had a long discussion about sustainability with the community before starting to ask for donations more pro-actively. We refused to add ads to Freesound coutless times, and surely are not using trackers. We moved all analytics systems in-house to avoid sharing any data with external services. If you have concerns related to these things, you can check our terms of service/privacy policy/cookies policy. Also, we are not planning on any premium/paid benefits.

The greatest thing about Freesound is it's community and philosophy, and this is something that we'll continue to support and don't want to change. Our intention releasing this new UI is precisely to be able to better support that.

I'd like to at least share that the UI has had me reconsider the site, I really really like how it looks and feels now, especially the fact that it has dark mode natively now, as someone who gets migraines from working on bright UIs often. I'll definitely be uploading content soon.

Will you at least consider implementing a list view for the sounds?

This is a huge upgrade from the old one, Well done!

You can add timestamped comments by using a syntax like "#1:07 nice bird chirp" in the description of your sound. This will be rendered with little play button to play the sound at that timestamp.

** example for everyone: https://freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/sounds/697401/

This works fine.
Thanks Frederic

strangehorizon wrote:
Will you at least consider implementing a list view for the sounds?

If you refer to the sounds which are currently displayed in "rows" in, e.g., the front page I'm afraid not (or at least not in the near future). The only way I could see this working without being too disruptive with the design would be to keep the idea of the carousels but display one sound per "page" instead of the 2 or 3 sounds per page that we use currently (depending on page's width). In the 1 sound per page mode I could try and use the display mode used in search results so you see more information. Nevertheless that'd mean less sounds are immediately visible, and the idea of usig the horizontal display was precisely to be able to see and play more sounds on the screen. If we ever go into that direction that'd be something to configure in account preferences.

klankbeeld wrote:
You can add timestamped comments by using a syntax like "#1:07 nice bird chirp" in the description of your sound. This will be rendered with little play button to play the sound at that timestamp.

Yes! this is a nice new feature. Thanks for trying it. It also works in sound comments.