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Bittorrent?
Started August 21st, 2006 · 12 replies · Latest reply by Anton 17 years ago
I'm new here and wow, great work guys!
A question for the admins... how come the server doesn't have a resume download feature? It kills me that somehow I always get disconnected at 50% all the time.. I have to redownload it all over again which is kinda a waste of bandwidth
Reading the other posts, I assume that it is to prevent to mass downloader from killing the server, which leads me to my suggestion.. Have you guys considered using torrents? I'm not an expert of how those things work but wouldn't those help on decreasing the bandwidth the server has to handle by putting some of the load onto torrents?
Well just a small suggestion, anyways keep up the great work!
Cheerios!
We have considered, but it's not as easy as it sounds...
See, there is no initial perpetual "seed", so you need a special server which keeps seeds alive.
At one point I was looking into "permaseed" but it seems pretty dificult to set up if you already have a whole system up and running...
The download resume is being worked on, but it isn't simple either!
cheers,
- bram
It seems like torrents would really only make sense for large packs as opposed to individual sample downloads.
Seeding is definitely a problem. Perhaps we could partner with legaltorrents?
Halleck
It seems like torrents would really only make sense for large packs as opposed to individual sample downloads.Seeding is definitely a problem. Perhaps we could partner with legaltorrents?
The same problem would continue: the server would need to be a "seed" in order for this to work... A server can't handle more than X seeds at a time...
- bram
I haven't really run it through a re-read of the CC license, but what exactly would stop people from Torrenting their own local directory of stuff they have downloaded from Freesound? Since it cannot be stopped, perhaps a set of guidelines could be devised to include credit and license info. (Links, etc as well). Control is great, but with such a license it is also totally unenforceable in the long-run.
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I notice that most people torrenting other material are pretty diligent about documenting the release in much the same way as FS encourages. Therefore it might not be an incompatible idea, unless someone knows otherwise...
I am also intrigued, and never really considered the idea of perma-seed, but it make sense that given the way trackers and torrents work, it isn't entirely supported universally. Perhaps I should bug torrent sites and sourceforge people to make a client that runs on a webserver (freesound.iua.upf.edu perhaps) and all it does is broadcast to the popular trackers the existence of all the Sample Packs. (With an .xml description which automatically contains all the native tags, author, description, freesound source and license requirements)
I also understand the slipper slope of it all. I think regular fressounders would probably ignore it, but the general population would run across it all in different ways...
Ok, [disclaimer] this is an experimental idea, please do not flame!
My prediction for the future is this: Electronic distribution licenses (even whose like CC) will eventually require those who have already downloaded, to share equally with others. The perma-seed need not demand additional bandwidth for freesound itself! Torrents by their very nature allow Brams servers to be the tracker, but point bit-torrent clients to OTHER sources of the same content. It would be cool if individual samples downloaded from freesound could 'know' that they are to automatically share themselves out from any machine that decides to download. Hell, it would still be totally consistent with the license as long as it contained the rules and legal text.
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Thats enough....
Well i'm totally new to the site....but the first thing i thought of was: THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST SITES I EVER FOUND...but it really needs an image of the archive, torrents, dvd-packs, big ftp/mirrors.
It's a pain to download sounds via web-interface and then realize thei're not what i expected.
A torrent-server could be paid through a user-fee? All i know is i just don't want to waste weeks sitting in front of a browser downloading masses of files manually. i think many users are searching for a library, not single sounds or little packs.
Or did i miss something? There's no FTP/Torrent for the whole archive right?
NO BITTORRENT!!! Bittorrent was just a good idea, it would be great IN THEORY but it ended up being completely useless, Just like communism, that idiot Carl Marx, how did he ever think that would work?
Anyways I don't want a bunch of brainless torrent-zombies running around freesound screaming "SEEEEEEEEEEEEEED PLLLLLLZZZ!!!" and besides it would be insane to start torrents going on the freesound server anyways because of bandwidth and everything
Well then name an alternative! A simple Listing for a 50gb+ and growing archive with hundreds of packs! that's just insane! I mean look at this! http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/packsView.php
It's a 20page+ html file!
sounds are not categorized in sections, no filesize display....no sorting options.
The ONLY thing i can do is using the browsers page-search function 
i'd prefer to download the whole archive in one piece and sort it on my own computer.
HI Rizard,
Thats why there is a preview function. There also used to be an open API available so everybody could make their own interfacve. Unfortunately that project is kinda dead (AFAIK) but apparantly for allmost everbody the interface works just fine.
FSP search engine is quite advanced so you should be able to find what you want pretty easily.
Cheers
Rizard
Must correct myself....sorting options are really good here! So no need for big downloads anymore...just didn't see them!
Together with the preview function it's really enough to find what i searched for. Sorry for being stupid. ;D
No worries 
glad your starting to find your way here. Enjoy!