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Started June 4th, 2005 · 21 replies · Latest reply by mariskeen 19 years, 4 months ago
I'm curious about how the sounds that have been downloaded so far have been used. I'm astonished by the number of downloads of the sounds I've added. I'd be very interested in hearing those sounds in their new context. Is anyone out there publishing anything?
-Richard
Hey, Richard
Well, I haven't downloaded anything, yet. But I plan to. I'll be using the sounds I download in electronic compositions.
~Jonathan
I've just spent a most excellent afternoon here after stumbling into this site entirely by accident. It's a fantastic idea, and I plan to start sampling some of my instruments to upload (Welsh & East European bagpipes and weird shit mostly as soon as I can get round to it.
As for how sounds are being used - well I've been messing around a bit (coz this is just too cool not to!) and I have to say you're not only creating a resource, but a virtual instrument in its own right!
I've uploaded a couple of tracks I mixed this afternoon entirely from freesound samples (they're not great - I didn't spend very long on them, and I can't claim total sobriety
The first track (http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=2500 hypnotique.mp3 was actually mostly cross-mixed 'in-browser' using Internet Explorer and recorded with Total Recorder (thank god for broadband, and how cool it is to be able to loop and overlap the preview players on each sample page!)
I had several windows open for the different samples, so I could conveniently reach the preview controls.
I did crossfade two chunks (join c.1:30) together after the event (deleting a couple of minutes of dross in the process) and faded out some residue from the end for a cleaner finish, but apart from that it's a realtime mix and the samples are used as is, manually worked with the stop/loop controls.
So there's a challenge for any aspiring DJs out there - a realtime mix with a bit more of a regular beat! (of course, what you really want's a preview jog-dial for the ultimate network scratch-mix!
I did actually briefly toy with a funkier 110bpm mix, but it was disastrous - even with 2Mbit broadband there's appreciable (and not 100% consistent) lag in the controls, so it would probably take a more skilled hand than mine to make it work (and I don't think the cider helped!) but hey - that just adds to the challenge!
The second track http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=2501 raspberry dogs - was mixed up using CoolEdit and Magix Music Studio Gen 6, and I think I've rather over-egged the pudding I got a bit carried away with all the flangers and reverb and shit (but hey, it was fun at the time.)
Apologies to those whose samples I'm unable to credit by name - I didn't pay much attention to where all the individual files came from (too much like a kid in a sweet shop to fully document my progress!) but I hope the results are at least of curiosity value.
Hello boojum,
I'm really sorry, but I didn't allow your files to pass moderation... One of the first rules of freesound is that the files added should be samples, not tracks... Appologies,
The best would be to post the tracks elsewhere and post the link to them here!
thanks a lot!!
- bram
Interesting question, Richard,
I, too, have wondered the same while lurking for the past several weeks prior to formal registration. As a new member I've downloaded but a few files yet am excited about this Web site. My plans are to perform sonic analysis of the files with digital software.
That raises my own question: Are others analyzing these files? If so, what software are you using and are you pleased with it? Currently I'm using Raven Lite shareware developed by Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology. It's a compact little system displaying both wave form and spectrography but I'm now feeling the urge to branch out into something a bit more sophisticated. As an audiologist I have some formal academics in both both acoustics and psychoacoustics but haven't actively utilized these skills in some time since I have been continuously employed in a medical clinical setting. Raven Lite is helping to jog my memory of the theory and my previous research in the discipline, but, as stated, hopefully affordable software is available to take me even further. Any ideas?
For awhile I must be a leech relative to downloading versus uploading. Concurrent with my sonic analysis interests I'm developing a love of Eco Acoustics and related field recording. But I've no recording equipment ---- yet. Hopefully that will change in the months to come and I've be able to upload something in return for what I've downloaded.
It's really great to have located this site!
Scott
viaeanguli
Interesting question, Richard,<snip>
That raises my own question: Are others analyzing these files? If so, what software are you using and are you pleased with it? Currently I'm using Raven Lite shareware developed by Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology. It's a compact little system displaying both wave form and spectrography but I'm now feeling the urge to branch out into something a bit more sophisticated. As an audiologist I have some formal academics in both both acoustics and psychoacoustics but haven't actively utilized these skills in some time since I have been continuously employed in a medical clinical setting. Raven Lite is helping to jog my memory of the theory and my previous research in the discipline, but, as stated, hopefully affordable software is available to take me even further. Any ideas?
<snip>
Scott
I haven't seen Raven Lite. What type of analysis are you doing? And what does your job as an audiologist entail?
-Richard
Hmm, audiologist.
About psychoacoustics. I call myself audiosculptor (basically electronic musician who cares more about audio and atmosphere than music). It could be useful for me to know more about how to express feelings in sound.
I have discovered some interesting things on my own. Like one chord which causes chills and feeling of fear go through body. It would be interesting to know more and to share my own discoveries.
Just now I posted a joint reply to both of your remarks/questions addressed to me. Somehow, however, the system failed and the posting did not appear.
It's been a rather long and difficult day; consequently, I do not have the time at this point to re-write my message. At the same time I want both of you to know that I appreciate your reponses to my message and will attempt another reply in the relatively near future.
Scott
RHumphries
I'm curious about how the sounds that have been downloaded so far have been used. I'm astonished by the number of downloads of the sounds I've added. I'd be very interested in hearing those sounds in their new context. Is anyone out there publishing anything?-Richard
I've auditioned tons of sounds on here and am amazed by the variety and quality--top notch! Have yet to download anything,
but only because I'm so damn busy with projects right now. Keep up the great work everybody! Andrew
Oops! Sorry, I should have read the FAQ
But I've upped some balalaika samples at http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/samplesViewSingle.php?id=2598 - 2611 - hope you like them (though I must get a better mic!)
Boojum
Bram
Hello boojum,I'm really sorry, but I didn't allow your files to pass moderation... One of the first rules of freesound is that the files added should be samples, not tracks... Appologies,
The best would be to post the tracks elsewhere and post the link to them here!
thanks a lot!!
- bram
Richard, you wrote:
"I haven't seen Raven Lite. What type of analysis are you doing? And what does your job as an audiologist entail?"
(a) "I haven't seen Raven Lite."
You'll find a graphic review of both Raven Lite and it's professional "brother" at: www.birds.cornell.edu/RavenLite. While developed primarily for the study of bird calls, Cornell University acknowledges that the software may also be of value for medical studies as well as Speech Pathology diagnostics and therapy.
(b) "What type of analysis are you doing?"
At this point I'm limited by my software to such basics as wave form studies (the plotting of wave amplitude against time) and spectography (the plotting of wave frequencies against time with amplitude intensities identified by brightness and/or color saturation). My true interest, however, is complex wave analysis via Fast Fourier transforms. As it happens, my audio file editing software (i.e. WavePad) includes a transform visualization in addition to the standard copy, edit, etc. functions found in all audio file editors. Fast Fourier transforms reveal the individual frequencies that comprise a complex wave. WavePad allows the monitor's cursor to be placed at any point along the wave then indicates the discrete frequencies at that point as well as their amplititude. It's an excellent feature but for a $45.00 USD software I must wonder just how accurate it truly is. In addition, I'm looking for software with greater flexibility (i.e. 1/3 octave transforms, etc.) and it is this interest which prompted my initial posting.
(c) "And what does your job as an audiologist entail?"
The majority of my workday involves the administration and interpretation of diagnostic studies designed to locate the pathological source and severity of auditory disorders. I look for abnormalities of the pinna (i.e. outer ear), ear canal, ear drum, ossicles (i.e. hammer, anvil, stirrup), middle ear space, Eustachian tube, cochlear fluids and hair cells, and neurological pathways ascending from the cochlea via the brainstem then onward to the cerebral cortex where the brain performs auditory analysis of the arriving sound signal. Parts of the examination require the patient to indicate the nature of sounds, both tones and speech, that they hear. Other aspects of the examination utilize computer-driven equipment to stimulate activity within the cochlea followed by a recording of that activity. On many occasions it is necessary to evoke the auditory system's reponse to stimuli by electrode placement that measures the ascending neurological impulses from the cochlea to the cerbral cortex. Less complicated reponsibilities involve my presence in local public schools measuring sound intensity and reverberation within classrooms as well as working with kids to demonstrate the hazards of noise intensity as well as ways for them to protect themselves from hearing loss.
That's a mouthfull, Richard, and much more than you bargained for, right!?
Now, then, within your profile you describe yourself as an Audio Engineer working in video post production. That, to me, sounds like real excitment!!!!! Please tell us more!
Suva, you wrote:
"I have discovered some interesting things on my own. Like one chord which causes chills and feeling of fear go through body. It would be interesting to know more and to share my own discoveries."
Wow. Are you delving deeply into the auditory sciences or are you delving deeply into the auditory sciences? I won't attempt to answer your questions, and mainly because what you've asked extends well beyond my knowledge. I will say, however, that your inquiry involves some cutting-edge research in current auditory studies. When you involve the subject of musical chords creating "chills" and "feeling(s) of fear" then you are introducing the subject of emotional response to sound. This, as I understand it, involves the brain's limbic system - that mysterious area of the brain comprised of multiple interacting structures and described as the "Center of Human Emotions." The limbic system truly has remained a mystery but great strides now are happening in research labs.
A suggestion for you: why not conduct your own informal research? First, it's important to define very clearly which chords evoke the emotions you have described. My knowledge of music theory is sparce to nil but I do know that musicologists speak of chords in precise terminology such as "augmented," "diminished," extensions beyond the basic triad, "major," "minor," etc. Once you can link a particular emotion with a very precisely defined stimulus-chord then present that stimulus to others and ask for their evoked emotion. The more people you ask the more reliable will be your findings. What about chords versus chord progressions? Are your described emotions strickly the result of discrete chords or per chance are chord progressions involved? This may seem to be a huge undertaking, but I don't think it will be once your complete the difficult part of precisely defining the chord and/or chord progressions. Truly I hope that you do pursue this then post your findings here at the Forum. I, for one, believe that you are involved in a topic that would create a fantastic thread.
Regards to both of you,
Scott
Post editing because I'm a miserable speller and always have been!!!
We (ghiroma) used some samples in a song that is running on a contest at ccmixter.
Here's the link to our website there:
http://ccmixter.org/by/ghiroma
and to direct download click above:
http://ccmixter.org/contrib/ghiroma/ghiroma-high.mp3
ghiroma
ps: i'm doing a analysis tool for audio in my M.Sc. at COPPE/UFRJ. and will share it with you soon (hopefully).
it will run on matlab only for now.
What I have downloaded I use mostly for sound/music projects in Ableton Live and/or Plogue Bidule.
audiologist
That's funny, I talled one of my sons yesterday that maybe I want to be an audiologist.
He had a paper in his hand from an information day for school children at the hospital showing gear and hearing aids..!
Cheers
// C
I like the studio kit from tictacshutup. I just finished up a music project
called new conventions of behavior. http://www.ncob.net
There is a 40 min mix available of the sounds.
These two tracks use freesounds! -
Clusters vs. Groove II
http://www.ncob.net/mp3s/cvg2.mp3
I'm taking a simple musical idea, and chaning the context from a small
concert hall to a synthetic urban environment.
http://www.ncob.net/mp3s/cvg1.mp3 -Concert hall - recorded live no freesounds.
Drum For My Life-
http://www.ncob.net/mp3s/dfml.mp3
Experimental rockish piano track.
The project is exploring the cognitive processes behind how we percieve
text, environmental sounds and musical structures. I worked with 11 different
artists and tried to combine their ideas into one project.
The feedback has been quite good so far.
I wonder how musicians are going to continue working in the future as more and more sounds enter the public domain.
That's the very same question I asked myself, because I added some samples only recently and they've been downloaded right away.
I used those great field recorded thunder claps as ambients for a ZDoom level (ZDoom is a freeware port of the PC game Doom).
Boojum, I like your balalaika sample.
Ninonine, you say you make hip hop beats. I'm interested in it. Can you share some?
mmhm, privat in moment...i finally have laid out me another samplebank for commercial tracks - the outstanding samples aren't excluded ...i become announce a corresponding conclude at the use...cu
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