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Retiring fx's you uploaded.
Started March 29th, 2005 · 29 replies · Latest reply by giuseppegavazza 15 years, 4 months ago
Hello folks @ freesound,
I wonder if in the future it is going to be possible to retire Fx I've uploaded from the site. Im not talking about changing the licence those files were released under, just the distribution on this site. Since the CCL is so open it would be nice to have the same "openness" in the control over my work.
Well i just mean deleting a file I uploaded from the database
I want to leave deleting files up to the administrators and not not up to the user. Deleting a file is something VERY final (i.e. no traces left in database or on disk) and I don't want such a sensitive feature to be publicly accessible.
- Bram
Well im not talking about deleting *everybodies* file, just the ones that you uploaded yourself. Back in the days of mp3.com for example, you could upload your songs but you still had control over what happened to the songs on that site after that. Right now, uploading something to freesound is very final. I might regret having uploaded a file in a couple weeks/months/years for example because it doesnt have the quality that I would want it to have.
plagasul
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well done
What Anton said seems very important to me...
Any registered uploader should be able to manage its files, and delete them if he wishes to... Or rename them, move them, etc.
Which does not mean the files created from this "sample" should be... But hey should follow the same scheme?
Mhh, all this seems complicated, doesn't it? 
Anyway, keep up the godd work, folks.
Bye.
Dode
Any registered uploader should be able to manage its files, and delete them if he wishes to... Or rename them, move them, etc. Which does not mean the files created from this "sample" should be... But hey should follow the same scheme?
Mhh, all this seems complicated, doesn't it?
Once you release a sample with sampling+ license, there is no 'way back'. People can use the sample anywhere, copy it, etc etc (with of course references to the original author!).
I've also seen plenty of web repositories where heaps of files are missing (dead links as a result), and I won't allow this to happen.
- Bram
i gotta agree with bram here, i dont think it would be a good situation for files to disappear at random (unless there was legal trouble with them), i'd really like to be able to count on this a solid archive of public samples. just my $0.02
The problem with this situation for me personally, is that my name is attached to these samples. At the moment, im a student with lowly gear so my output is definantly not the one that I adhire to. what if these samples still life on 20 years from now, here, being distributed under my name.
Ofcourse, once my sample gefs out under CC it stays like that (although this has not been tested in the courts yet afaik, but lets assume that it will) that doesnt change that stopping distributin of the sample could make a difference.
On the other hand, im glad half the freesound-world is enjoying my glass samples so I shall stop nagging.
Anton
The problem with this situation for me personally, is that my name is attached to these samples. At the moment, im a student with lowly gear so my output is definantly not the one that I adhire to. what if these samples still life on 20 years from now, here, being distributed under my name.
that is why you have to click the "i agree to the license" box before you can get your files on freesound. the license says that anyone can use/distribute your sound under certain conditions. essentially, once you submit the sound, freesound is the first distributor of your released sound. it is in some ways like releasing an audio recording on a record label: once you have pressed and sold the records, you really have no way of "removing" the recording from the world . . .
i'm not trying to be argumentative, i am just rewording the concept as it appears to me.
imo it's pretty simple.
Don't upload any samples that you don't want to be freely and publicly available.
if you realise you've made a mistake then ask the admin to take it off - I don't think Bram or anyone is going to risk the reputation of the site to say no!
What you can't do is insist that everyone who downloaded your sample return it to you and erase any evidence of it.
I hate those sites where there's dead links - I get all excited over nothing, and end up not using them again!
Simon
simondsouzaDon't upload any samples that you don't want to be freely and publicly available.
if you realise you've made a mistake then ask the admin to take it off - I don't think Bram or anyone is going to risk the reputation of the site to say no!
What you can't do is insist that everyone who downloaded your sample return it to you and erase any evidence of it.
I hate those sites where there's dead links - I get all excited over nothing, and end up not using them again!
that prety much sums it up nicely 
- Bram
In your case you could probably just take out your last name from all traces on this site. And then you will just be known as the mysterious Anton. Maybe not at first, but after a good year or so search engines may not be so likely to point you and you're full name to your earliest work.
Of course you lose promotion of your other work at the same time. But it probably wouldn't be a big deal to let you create a new alias here to feature only your newest work and your identity on that name instead. If you create a new alias/name as a sound producer in real life it will also be much harder to trace back older work you're not so proud of to you.
I'm with Anton. I was a disappointed to discover that nowhere on your management page is an option to remove samples. I searched and searched. It seemed so obvious. You distribute your work for free, is it so much asked to decide at a certain point in time that you want to stop the distribution of certain material, leaving all the previous licenses as they were? (You don't stop the use, just the proliferation.)
I would like to see this added. I don't believe this would result in very many dead links because only a handful people will use it occasionaly. Manipulating nicknames is no solution. I have one name, the name my parents gave me and like to stick with it.
Or at least you should add something in the FAQ on this topic. It is essential to understanding how this site works and what the admins think is best.
Apart from that, I love to hang around here. Great place on the web!
Herbert
I think that the policy is fine as-is, since it makes people really think about it before they request to have their sample removed.
However, I agree with you that this process should be more obvious. We should at least have a faq topic about it, if not some kind of form you can submit to request deletion of certain files. Perhaps we should also let people trying to describe uploaded files know this policy up-front so they can decide if they want to go through with the upload or not, and aren't surprised when they find out the policy later.