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Thanks Nils and nemoDaedalus,

You have described much better exactly what I was clumsily trying to say in my previous post.

I do think that Freesound would gain an advantage in exposure, and some if not many Soundcloud users whose philosophy is "Freesoundesque" would open Freesound accounts for the advantage of unlimited free storage space and to support our principles.

Although I'm not interested personally, the poll currently shows that 30 percent of respondents (at this time) would consider using the option. I think that is quite a high proportion, and providing it didn't clutter things up for the rest of us, that makes it still worthy for consideration.

An important thing to consider however is the workload for Bram and others. With FS2 still in development and, I guess, starved of time and resources, it's pretty obvious that development of this might need to be put behind other priorities (unless "external" resources magically appear!)

@strangely_gnarled: the function would be built more or less by us during the barcelona hack day in the beginning of october. me and a developer are going there with the aim to build something in the span of what we've been talking about in this thread.

Thanks for the info Nils.

In the spirit of good democratic coalitions (like UK's new Government) progress depends on a united approach. My vote will be for however Bram chooses to handle it from now on.

Wibby

Hi,

I'm using SoundCloud to listen to fresh "music" or to upload my 3 minutes long noises.
I think their philosophy (apart from being a paying service above 120mn uploaded time) is about this.

I browse FreeSound to find atmospheres and short samples, i.e. bricks, that are likely to be used in a "3 minutes long noise"

I can't see why anyone could need a common upload.

But I may be wrong and misuse one or the other.

FreeSound is heaven for noise and sound makers.
SoundCloud is heavern for artists to share and to be known.

That's why I voted No (I wouldn't use it) and That's a bad idea (free and commercial don't easily mix, there are always tears in the end).

That's my PoV and I agree with it.
Arthur.

I voted no as I use freesound to find "sounds" and soundcloud to upload full songs, so I don't see the point of putting sounds on soundcloud, but that's just my opinion ...

I love soundcloud, and i love freesound. A freecloud would be great but any form of combining strength between these 2 lovely sites would be a gift.

and i think most users from freesound would love it. only not a lot of active forum people. (why is that?).

I think it would be another step in making the WWW more plesant and interconnected.

grtz fons.

daalvinz
I voted no as I use freesound to find "sounds" and soundcloud to upload full songs, so I don't see the point of putting sounds on soundcloud, but that's just my opinion ...

there is a LOT of sounds on soundcloud. I use soundcloud only for my songs, and for networking with people, BUT some people do it in other ways, and use it for sounds.
so having the versatility of soundcloud in mind, and not only thinking from your own perspective, you'l see it would be a step forward to have some collaboration between these 2 sites.

For some weird reason I can never play ANYTHING off soundcloud. Download yes, but simply play a file - never.
If it's some peculiar 'user error' in my Firefox setup I don't know, but I've spent ages tinkering and can never get my laptop to do anything with that site.
Obviously I vote NO

For me it is inportant that all benefits of freesound remain and that it will remain just as easy as it is now to find specific sounds. In case of getting together wit soundcloud, I hope this will not result in a huge database in which it is much more difficult to browse through sounds.
I feel the goals of both sites are quite different (?)

i honestly don't see the point.

Dear Bram

I think it is a bad idea to integrate Soundcloud with Freesound. Soundcloud is not FREE, it has limitations that are governed by marketing strategies, while freesound has only its technological limits.
Soundcloud is not only limiting the 120 minutes of upload space per user, it also limits the amount of downloading by other users. Your upload and download possibilties can be expanded if you pay. By doing so, Soundcloud discriminates between paying users and not paying users, while freesound doesn't discriminate, it's all about the (technological) liberation of the recorded sound.
I see a big difference in philosophy between Soundcloud and Freesound.

Please keep freesound free.
Thank you

I love both platforms and both communities for what they are doing so well!

I have always considered freesound as a place for gathering material for personal projects. I never put compositions and I try to post sounds which could be useful to others personal needs. I love the open "non-composed" quality of the posts as they allow me to make them my own. Thehe search functions are fabulous.

I adore soundcloud just as much! I adore it because of the community of composers who inspire eachother and who are even quite often put up unfinished work for feedback. Both communities are fabulous and I really appreciate going to one or the other for what they represent in creativity and inresources.

I am very open to change and integration. But I am leaning toward the idea that these platforms might develop best on there own parralel paths which would allow them to each have very strong and, at the same time, very complementary characters!

With respect,
Leon.

it is conflicting. however, i would still use it if it is available.

EDIT: wait, i changed my mind, I think it's a bad idea, please don't do it. thank you.

i voted "yes, I would use it." because how i think option offered by soundcloud - commenting on any part of the track may be useful in this portall

Bram,ya know my feelings on ads or other sites mooching off of us. They want a data base like ours then tell them to put in the work to obtain it.

but sound cloud is cool

voted "yes", not knowing the paying elements of soundcloud. i now regert it. i take it back!

but: make an app on the app store for freesound! soon!

Hi guys in my Humble opinion Freesound is unique please stay that way.lotsa Respects Rob.

i see it as being both good and bad ... in theory it is a great idea, and i love it ... but in practice, it could mean eating into the storage time that soundcloud grants for free, in which case, it would suck badly

Any time you have a for profit enterprise wanting to sidle up to a community, you can be certain, it is never good for the community in the long run. The community exists due to shared mutually beneficial relationships.

Any time a for profit outfit wants something, they should pay for it.

You are competing with this for profit service for peoples time, loyalty and sounds.
Stay true to your community, and let the for profit outfit find it's own stuff.