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I have been working on a program.
It allows the user to sort, preview and use the sound effects.
All the sound files are encoded (encrypted) and the program decrypts the files when the user wants to use them.
The files aren't in the program, they are stand alone files but encryoted as I said.

I plan to sell the program and would like to include some of the sample files on this site. I have no problem attributing the origin of the files, but of course going from one user to another asking permission would take to much time.

I would also like to allow the people using my program to download more samples (for free).

Can I use samples from this site in this program?

You can't charge money for the works as they are, that would be illegal. Just like selling sample CD's with creative commons samples is illegal as far as I know.

You are free to remix and/or use the samples to make something of them, and then sell that, THAT is legal, but what you suggest isn't.

Your only choice is contacting the authors and ask them if you can sell their samples. If you get -individual- consent to do so from the original author, of course you are free to. But, that's between you and the author.

- bram

Actually it isn't against the CC license.... But "freesounds" uses a CC-samples license which makes it that way.

From what I see.

I am just asking this because it came to mind,
What is the difference between "freesoundsproject" and any of the other numerous sites which say you can download and use "free", "royalty free" samples but then you find out that they limit you to where its not so free.
If you REALLY want to make things free why no go the route of openclipart and just put it all out in the public domain?

I just don't see the difference.

Thanks
Mike

To stop people with ideas like you MJ.........

Perhaps contributors to this site should be given more options of how their samples can be used. If there is potential money to be made out of them, then the site owner should get a lesser cut than the creator....,

Also MJ, the law does change, and if you find and exploit a loop hole and all complain, you will be very poor...

I agree vehemently with Sonic Sculptor. When I offer something for free, in my case, songs; I do so in an attempt to fight against the greed out there that keeps us all from prosperity.

LOL....

Socialists?

As you can read.. I was asking if it was legal. If I did not care I wouldn't have asked.

Also, just a note since you said it, if someone takes "advantage" of a "loop hole" and the law changes that person can't be tried for something they did when it was legal (I think before you state something as a fact you should check into it). That principal is basic law.

As for giving away the items... Obviously you haven't "given them away" you retained rights to them. So please use the term correctly (unless when you "give" things "way" you tell people that you still own it).

I have no problem with you "giving away" anything, even if it isn't really. But I do have a problem with whining if someone asks.
If it were truly given away then the attitude is "do as you want with it, I knew what I was doing when I gave it away", not like so many of the liberal elites we have (and plenty of conservative elites) who "give things away" as long as you do what they want.

Hey, like I said I have no problem if the stuff on this site isn't "FREE" or "Given Away", all I was saying was make it plain instead of putting it in terms of "free use" like so many sites do (until you read the fine print).

Also, There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone taking stuff that were really given away (free) and using them to make a profit. This "why should you make money on someone elses work" is whining... No one forced the person to give it up. So if you do (really do) then accept your decision and don't put others down because you react on feelings.

Now Im not going to argue this. It is simple and plain.
I have no plans to use any files of this site since they are obviously under a license that doesn't make them truly free.

Mike

You are missing the point. The license the sounds are under prevents people from taking the work someone creates for the good of everyone else and selling it to unsuspecting consumers for profit. It's most similar to making it illegal to sell entrance to a public park. Anyone is free to use the park (or music) how they wish, but they cannot limit other people's access to it by charging for it. It's the only way to ensure free music stays truly free.

I see nothing wrong with what you are planning to do, however. You are selling the software, not the samples. Just like someone is able to sell a web browser and include a link to freesound, you can sell your program and link to freesound files, so long as you make sure the end users know the license they are under. What you are planning on doing is like selling a brochure of a public park, which is perfectly acceptable. I would just make sure to not distribute the files with your program, because that's getting into a gray area.

I can understand your frustration with the licensing stuff especially on sites that say royalty free and then want payment.

However, Freesound is at least up front with the licensing.

And for many purposes the sounds are truly free to the user.

Some people here do want to use freer or completely free licenses and this site is eventually going to do that with FreeSound 2.0.
So stick around and see what else may come from here.

For your project you might want to do searches for "public domain sounds".

Those aren't supposed to have any restrictions, and I don't really see stuff with the deceptive titles like "royalty free" IF you pay us and follow
our rules. On the other hand I'd be wary of people posting supposed public domain samples that are actually copyrighted.

Also the link in my sig might have a license with tons of instrument samples that will probably work for your project.
I believe they are stated as royalty free without stipulations. I would double check but I'm pretty sure last time I checked it.

You are free to remix and/or use the samples to make something of them, and then sell that, THAT is legal

Well then if thats the case then this works exactly like the EJAY music software because at their site they tell you that you can use their software and or their sounds to release music for profit without even giving credit to them but you CANNOT bundle any of their sounds into a sampling CD/DVD for sale.

I think thats more than fair.

So does MikeJoel want to bundle some Freesound Project sounds with his program and sell it as 1 complete work or does he want to sell his program and provide the user with a link to the Freesound Project so the user can access sounds for the program ?

the only redeeming thing I see is to release it for free to the good of the community.
the way the internet is these days. its available for free from many different sources already I'm sure.

Why don't you sample yourself what you need?
Or pay somebody to do it

Then the samples will be yours

I think you're good if you provide the samples in a directory structure similar to this:

Samples
-freesound.org
--Author
---Soundpack
----Sound.wav

That way you ensure that the author is getting the attribution he deserves.

So if you for instance want to use one of my explosion sounds then you would use the following structure:

Samples
-freesound.org
--jobro
---Explosions 1
----Explosion 1.wav

That way you aknowledge my work and give me attribution.

Note that the dashes are only here to simulate the tree structure.