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Hi All,
I started a new thread because I thought it was well out of the line of the other questions I had already asked below.

I am a videographer that wants to improve the sound of my recordings. It has been suggested to me and I am taking it very seriously, to buy some mikes to do MS Recording. As this is a rather steep investment, I really want to understand what this means in terms of added work.

Has anyone ever done the post production of this in Final Cut Studio, or Vegas? As its clear there is some processing work to be done on the recordings you end up with (adding and subtracting), I was just wondering how people do this? Is it done inside the NLEs or does the audio have to be stripped out and added back after its processed. If is is stripped out, with what do you do the post processing with?

Thanks!

Brian

brfindla
Hi All,
I started a new thread because I thought it was well out of the line of the other questions I had already asked below.

I am a videographer that wants to improve the sound of my recordings. It has been suggested to me and I am taking it very seriously, to buy some mikes to do MS Recording. As this is a rather steep investment, I really want to understand what this means in terms of added work.

Has anyone ever done the post production of this in Final Cut Studio, or Vegas? As its clear there is some processing work to be done on the recordings you end up with (adding and subtracting), I was just wondering how people do this? Is it done inside the NLEs or does the audio have to be stripped out and added back after its processed. If is is stripped out, with what do you do the post processing with?

Thanks!

Brian

Waves has a plugin which is call "stereo imager" which takes MS as a source and converts it to stereo and lets you decide the stereo image. That is the easiest solution I know. Is it compatible with FCP and Vegas, I don't know...

I'm using a free VST plugin by voxengo (MSED) that (at least in Audition) works wonderfully to decode/encode M-S recordings
http://www.voxengo.com/product/msed/

Hey Marty,
Thanks for the reply.. you're a great help. I was unfamiliar with "Waves".. when I goggled for it, my jaw dropped hock: ... So next question begs.. which package? Not the $9K one I hope :!: For me, I'm sure if I thought it would really lend itself to a quality product I would come up with the $2K-$3K for a good set of mics for a MS setup.. but the S/W and maybe the conversion is a bit of a deal breaker. If you've got a hundred clips to convert, that could be really painful.. but the cost of "Waves" makes it even more painful. I'm trying to go though a FCP board to find out if anyone over there knows how to do it within Final Cut. If so, I'll probably drop for the mics..

If anyone know any Shareware/Freeware or relatively reasonable priced packages that do the MS -> Stereo converstion.. please let me know..

Thanks!!

Brian

I don't know of any way to do this in FCP, but I've never tried any advanced mic setups before.
Maybe give it a shot in audacity?

Also, look at that vst plugin dobroide linked to... get yourself a free VST host (search the forum, there was a thread on these) and you're in business.

Here's the post I was thinking of BTW:

Bram
http://www.audiomulch.com
http://www.plogue.com

and more general all of these host VST plugins:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=adv&soft=h&type%5B%5D=0&f=vst&fe=vst&linux=1&mac=1&osx=1&win=1&free=1&com=1&un=1&sf=0&receptor=&sort=1&rpp=15

- bram

Halleck
Here's the post I was thinking of BTW:

Bram
http://www.audiomulch.com
http://www.plogue.com

and more general all of these host VST plugins:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=results&st=adv&soft=h&type%5B%5D=0&f=vst&fe=vst&linux=1&mac=1&osx=1&win=1&free=1&com=1&un=1&sf=0&receptor=&sort=1&rpp=15

- bram

Googling on a sunday, what a pleasure...

I found a software " Wave editor" from AudioFile Engineering that seems to do a lot more than Audacity but unfortunetly I was not able to get it working, because I am not osx 10.4... It has a MS DECODER inside. They sell it for $ 250, you should give it a try before but I think it is interesting. They also have "sample manager" which can do batch processing, anyone have an experience with that?

Anyone has experience with "Double MS" for Surround?, I am thinking about that these days

Actually, THIS is the post I was looking for:

Bram
MUCH easier to use a simple host like

http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm

or

http://www.tobybear.de/p_minihost.html

- bram