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Anyone else have the edirol r-1?

I think the unit does very well in all aspects of sampling except noise level. Their is a bit of inherent noise when recording. Though you would probably only notice if you knew what to listen for.

Anyway what are you all using to do field recordings? Minidisk? I have an 80 sony minidisk player, it's kind of old it, and it doesn’t have USB. But I was thinking of getting a powered mic for it, so I could use that for field recording too.

For recording in the home I have an EMU 1820m. I use an M-Audio Audiobuddy as a preamp for my mics, and then go through the balanced rear inputs. This gives me very good results. The only problem is the noise my computer creates. I have lowered this significantly by using fan speed controllers. I can lower the fan speed while recording then turn it back up when I’m not so I don’t raise the temperature too much. Though I should be moving my computer into a separate room in about a month, so by about August I’ll a clean setup for studio recordings.

To reduce the temprature of your CPU you could try to use the free RM clock http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml

It dynamicly changes your voltage and multiplier of your CPU to reduce warmth. (it's better than the standard AMD Powernow program) I use it on my laptop since it wasn't really stable at the highest clock settings so I lowered the voltage a bit (fyi. that saves battery too, when portable). And the program supports a lot of processors.

Maybe a bit more on-topic...
For my home recording i use a Edirol DA-2496. A very nice low noise unit with 8 balanced in and outs. 2 build in mic pre-amp which work very well,... but i can't call them 'super' sounding. A deticated preamp usualy sounds better. However I like to use them with the NT1a cond. mics of RODE, good sound and fairly cheap...

Thanks for the tips on the app to reduce cpu temp. As for my edirol r-1 it is gong back. Last night I was trying to record the sound of crickets and when I turned the gain up all the way the noise level was simply too much. It overpowered the signal.

Are minidisk recorders usually pretty queit or are they noisy too.

Thanks

I've been using a mini disc for a while. Did well in a pinch. Latley I've been using an R4. I still keep the MD about as they''re small and portable.

Are you using the internal mics in the R4 or XLR? How is the noise level if you turn the gain up all the way?

Thanks for your time.

Oh god no...I'm not using those little mics on the machine itself.

does that program help shut the fans off of your computer so you can record in silence?
not exactly sure what it does.

my minidisc is pretty good but i dont think it's as quiet as a dedicated recording device like fostex, marantz or tascam.
i have this one: http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1001417&navigationPath=n32120n46922n32123

The program can lower the power of your CPU and therefore it will become less hot.

My laptop and my desktop pc at home are both capable of automaticly changeing the fan speed. So it notices the lower temprature and will make the fans run slower. However if you don't have this feature you'll have to use seperate fan speed controllers to lower the speed and noise manually.

Greetz

I'm goning to try this with the r1

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/category.cgi?category=540&item=SP-PREAMP&type=store

not sure which mic I'm goin to get.

Looks cool. Maybe another option would be to pick up a battery powered phantom power box. I have one with dual channels, mic input and output in xlr and 1/4. That way you can use many kinds of mics and output 1/4 to 1/8th with either an adapter or cable to your R1. Leaves lots of options open.

I bought an ART dual phantom power box a while back, but took it back because what i actaully needed was a preamp (with phatom power). The phantom power box would be ideal, except that outputing to XLR would force me to go 2 XLR -> 2 1/4" -> 1/8"mono x2 -> 1/8" stereo. As the r1 has a 1/8" line in which I'm gussing bypasses the internal preamp, and a 1/8" mic input which would use the preamp. So the XLR box would go into mic and use the internal preamp.

Thanks for the suggestion sonic, I'll be keeping my eyes open for phantom power boxes.

Hi, I'm using the Edirol R1 too, with mixed results but on the whole I'm pretty happy with it. I'm aware that I won't be getting the highest quality recordings from the R1, but its ease of use and portability mean that I get recordings where otherwise I wouldn't bother or be able to.

Most of the time I have gain turned right up to get a decent signal.

Any opinions on the following regarding the R1 would be welcome
- Is it worth using any of the built in NR or microphone emulating effects (I'm not using them currently)
- How do the built in mics compare with other budget options (I've got an AKG C1000s and a Sony tiny stereo minidisk mic)

Cheers

Think about making your own. There are lots of simple kits available for preamps at very small cost. I recently put together a stereo microphone with preamp using good quality electret microphones. It cost me about $25 in total and performs very well - although I am still considering modify the feedback network on th preamp to fix too hig a gain in the low frequencies.

huu, this topic is quite broad but the edirol r-1 was something i was looking at, yes. but the price is too high for something that isn't perfect

it's really too bad gemini hasn't made a version of their iKey with built in mic-preamps. i suppose there are in-line-style solutions to the problem that wouldn't be too aquard, i just like having one cute/convinient box that does it all ... the less there is to fuck around with, the better!

that said i went ahead and grabbed a monolith premium mx7000 from eStarLabs which records from the built in mic or line in at 320kbps. i got it mostly for recording vocals (we'll see if the no-computer-noise & shitty mic combo is better than the mega-computer-noise & nice mic combo in the end) :twisted: ... i'm not much of a fidelidy snob and am much more about convinence ... that's the whole reason i'm looking to replace my sharp 722 md w/ a flash-based recorder :roll:

for sampling synth sounds i'll still be recording through whatever pro-sumer dac is in my tascam or maudio soundcard.

I was considering getting an r-1 also, tho the r-9 is about to be released. I was even considering just buying a secondhand portable DAT walkman, but now i've got no cash left. I spotted this on sp http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-GIGATRACKER , it makes a lot more sense since it comes with a preamp and a 20 gig hardrive. Thats the only thing that bugs me out about the edirols is the 2 gig thing. Tho since ive got no review of the gigatracker, you know, the interface might be annoying, and being locked up in a case and all, well would you have to open the thingvand close it every time you wanted to pause or change volume? Sounds a bit annoying. Ease of use overall is what u need i reckon. So i dunno, maybe when flashcards are around 20 gig it'll be the go, but now i'd probably prefer something that was a hard drive. Anyone know of any other wav HD recorders on the market as opposed to the card thing?