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Started March 25th, 2019 · 36 replies · Latest reply by kevp888 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
Sorry about the pricey pillow xD The picture was the reason for posting the link. I bought mine for 10EUR at a furniture shop in my hometown.
A Jecklin Disk is nice for great stereo recordings but could be too bulky for easy carrying and usage outside. Also the blimp required would be much larger.
Perhaps something like this would be a good solution for frederic:
http://www.trackseventeen.com/mic_rigs.html
Thanks everyone for your suggestions! This thread is now a nice mixture of recording tips and pictures of mic-eating animals. Really cool I think I'm quite happy with my setup as it is now, although the pre-amplifier noise is too high. Good quality pre-amplifiers are very expensive so I guess this will have to wait. What I should definitely invest on is a stereo cable, because having two cables taped together is a nightmare!
One last thing:
eardeer wrote:
http://www.trackseventeen.com/mic_rigs.html
Yikes. Anyone who has ever tried placing a mic very close to a corner would probably wince at that idea. I'm 96.3% certain that reflections from those flat wood surfaces would not make a pleasant contribution the final sound.
In theory, I totally agree. I think I´ll try it anyway and I´m 3,7% certain it works!!
Joking aside, this kind of array could work well in some situations. If you are going to record stuff like birdsongs or silent ambiences the sonic energy would perhaps be low enough to not cause noticeable or destructive reflections.
Perhaps some modifications can be made, like putting some absorbing material between wood and mics. Also the plain surfaces of the array should be more or less behind the targeting point of the microphone when using directional mics. And/or they can be arranged in certain angles to prevent direct reflections ...I think I´ll give it a shot next weekend and build something
zimbot wrote:
One last thing:eardeer wrote:
http://www.trackseventeen.com/mic_rigs.htmlYikes. Anyone who has ever tried placing a mic very close to a corner would probably wince at that idea. I'm 96.3% certain that reflections from those flat wood surfaces would not make a pleasant contribution the final sound.
I have built this array as a smaller and lighter alternative to my real SASS. I use Lom Usi mics. It works on the same "boundary" principle as the SASS, and while it isn't perfect it is easy to toss in my backpack with a small recorder and get nice results, or more currently putting out my window all night: https://freesound.org/people/tim.kahn/sounds/514282/
okay, I can see how if the capsule were very close to the boundary (like a Countryman only millimeters away), you get something like a PZM, but if the capsule is even an inch a way, you get some comb filtering centered at ... what, maybe 12 kHz? I won't bother doing the math. I just think this idea could probably benefit a great deal from having the surfaces nearest to the capsule be convex (as with a jecklin). Heck, just use nerf football (that's the oblong American kind of football) instead of straight boards. Just thinking out loud here. Feel free to ignore me. You use what sounds good to you, and I can't argue with that!
klankbeeld wrote:frederic.font wrote:
Thanks @klankbeeld, your recordings inspire me
Watch out. today I had my belongings unattended in the park for 3 hours. When I came back half my windjammer was eaten by a bird. he must have a nice nest now.
klankbeeld wrote:
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Well friends, here is the windshield-destruction-story in sound and text.
https://freesound.org/people/klankbeeld/sounds/518430/
Thank you klankbeeld.
I feel really guilty because I have never smiled so hard at somebody else's misfortune.
I think it must have been quite a big and strong bird with lot's of beak carrying capacity: Perhaps crow or magpie.
There will be DNA in the poop if you want to turn to forensics.
I've already sent the poo to the lab, but it's busy because of covid19
Damn covid, we'll never know which bird it was
frederic.font wrote:
Damn covid, we'll never know which bird it was
I've been intrigued too.
Thought there might be clues on social media, so wrote an algorithm for an automated search.
Unfortunately it got stuck in an infinite iterative loop when it found Twitter.
Should have started searching on Duck Duck Go.
Have eliminated Crows and Magpies. Corvidae have tough arses and don't line their nests.
Looking at birds which eat Rabbits and Hamsters - like Hawks.
Wibby.
...probably a Sapropheliphagus[1] Minor
[1] totally made up word for "eater of dead cats"
copyc4t wrote:
...probably a Sapropheliphagus[1] Minor[1] totally made up word for "eater of dead cats"
Unfortunately being Dyslexic I cant read that without adding an 'h' after the first 'p', swapping the 'g' and the 'l' and visualizing a sexually predatory woman in a cat suit. (visualizing much easier to accomplish than describing the letterswapping.)
I have no idea why I first went with hamster rather than feline.
It was Cat woman's evil twin sister.
Hi Frederic,
Here are my 2 cents about DIY windshiels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwOQq4OANCk
https://youtu.be/nOOGusih2Eg?t=493
The main part is 20mm grommet:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=Black+Rubber+20mm+Open+Hole+Ring+Double+Side+Cable+Wiring+Grommet&_sacat=0
Hi,
I have two rode NT5, and WS8 windshields.
I'm struggling to have a XY recording, because the wind shields are so large I cannot superpose both mics on my Rode Stereo Bar SB20. The clearance isn't enough once I have my windshields.
So I can do ORTF, or A-B recordings I'm not sure how to do a mainly ILD (Interaural Level Difference) type stereo setup.
I can set both mics 90° 7cm appart. Right mic facing left side, left mic facing right side.
Which I presume is a big no no, to have opposite ITD and ILD stereo x')
I came in wanting to ask if that setup would cause any phase issue, thing I heard a bit but never really grasped where it might be problematic in stereo mic setups and at what frequency for what seperation etc... I presume anything other than XY where mics aren't superposed is problematic somewhere? To what extent?
Is it the superposition of the capsules in a XY setup that prevents any phase issue? Or is it the 90° configuration? (Both?)
If I wanted to have a wider stereo field, could I consider going above 90°?
Taking it to the extreme, I presume overlapping 180° appart mics would have phase issue? Is it a thing a phase inversion could fix ?
Why not be concerned about all this for ORTF ? A-B? Or other ?
I presume, I need to focus on the XY mic position, and figure out a wind-shield that can cover both capsules at once, rather than trying fo fit both?
OR, get a extension rod and raise one of both mics until both wind shields fit but that feels cursed, and probably will bring in some weirdness for vertical sources above the mic setup like planes and birds and stuff.
So, what's the geeky theory I should know?
How much should I worry about mic setups in practice, for technical issues vs freestyling artistically?
I hear MS and XY in for the film industry / SFX, I presume this is because a ITD stereo setup like on a A-B or ORTF setup to be problematic on speakers. For soundscapes "preservation" and scientific research, is any setup preferable over another?
Don't answer that last one, I'l post it in another thread/subject
https://freesound.org/forum/production-techniques-music-gear-tips-and-tricks/44901/?page=1#post104083
Hey Sadiquecat !
Well, in XY configuration, closest is best ! Ideally, the centres of the 2 capsules should be at the same place, To be reached by the sound waves at the same time. But as it’s practically impossible, your 2 mics should be superposed closely as possible, without touching each other.
For XY field recording, the best choice would probably be to use a blimp (or similar), as you can keep your mics as close as possible, avoiding phase and wind, but it might be a quite bulky and cumbersome setup.
You could also try to superpose your NT5s on the SB20, and build a custom windscreen by yourself, if you are able.
Or, if it is too complicated, you could continue to use the XY mics of your H5/H2N when you really want XY, and ORTF or any other spaced array if you’re aiming an other goal.
On the other hand, if you’re really looking for XY , you could also have a look to some single point microphones like the Rode Stereo videomic X (which is shipped with a windscreen), and the Rode nt4 or Audio-technica BP4025, with appropriates windscreens.
(However, keep in mind that MS microphones might be a good choice too, as you can edit the width of your recording in post.)
Hope it could help !
Kevin